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  • Although I have to explain the difference between Cuesta and Quebrada to him on occasion. Cuesta has nothing to do with coast in the strict sense of the word.

    It is then "off topic" but of course I am happy to be clarified. With terms like the one above, Cuesta usually stands for coast, right? Otherwise it's just a mountain slope or something like that (in Franconian Ranga - there is no really accurate German translation; just this Franconian one). Or stop in connections like cuesta arriba = uphill. All information is as always supplied without liability! Although my wife is Spanish, this is often of little use with these South American names. Quebrada? No idea!

    Much more important: Denmoza can be summarized with a clear conscience as a monotypical genus with only one species. Extreme variability comes from many factors and does not warrant species rank.

    Does anyone else have Denmoza photos in stock?

    "If you want to deal with cacti, avoid any kind of humor and tolerance." - Author of glosses aculeatus in Stachelpost 1969

  • Hello shamrock,

    I once had this interpretation of cuesta = coast. This was probably due to the French Cote d'Azur and the Cote d'Or. The former is actually a coast, while no one in Burgundy would expect a coast.
    In South America, however, "coast" is "costa" and "cuesta" stands for "slope".
    And while we're at it, "quebrada" can best be translated as "gorge" or "valley".

    One more comment - this time on the subject - which I hope will not be interpreted as unauthorized advertising:
    If you are looking for a Denmoza that blooms as early as possible, then Andreas Wessner's nursery is definitely the first choice for you.
    He sells plants from a selection that are sure to flower very early.

    Best regards
    Nobby

  • Hello shamrock,
    yes, in the course of time the Spanish mother tongue in Argentina has probably become a little more independent. The terms Quebrada and Cuesta appear quite often in parlance or as terrain names on maps. In all honesty, I mix them up every now and then. But you can remember that a mountain flank is called a cuesta when the mountain is practically alone. Roads or paths meander along the mountain flank. Quebrada is then a ravine through which a road or path is led, such as the famous Quebrada del Toro:

    [url] http://www.google.de/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=de&q=quebrada+del+toro&oq=quebrada+de+tor&gs_l= hp.1.0.0i10i30j0i8i10i30j0i30l2.843.16343.0.19750.15.15.0.0.0.1.1469.5220.1j8j2j1j0j1j0j2.15.0 ... 0.0 ... 1c.1.OpMRwEU_2S8 & amp; amp; pbx = 1 & amp; amp; or bav. r_gc.r_pw. & amp; amp; fp = 1f18cc49b08f9c6b & amp; bpcl = 37189454 & amp; amp; biw = 1024 & amp; amp; bih = 571 [/ url]

    [url] http://wikitravel.org/de/Quebradas [/ url]

    [url] http://www.google.de/search?q=cuesta+de+miranda&hl=de&lr=lang_de&sa=X&tbs=lr:lang_1de&amp ; prmd = imvns & amp; tbm = isch & amp; tbo = u & amp; source = univ & amp; ei = 59iXUMfQMILPtAbel4CwDQ & amp; amp; ved = 0CDAQsAQ & amp; biw = 1024 & amp; bih = 571 [/ amp; bih = 571

    I have to go back there urgently, because I also start pondering at Empenada and Saltenias. Take a bite, I was told, then I would find out the difference ...
    ... and how do I find my way back to the topic? Well actually quite simple. The genre has now been made monotypical. But you can well remember that the plants from the southern area of ​​distribution have yellow thorns, become larger or columnar and were previously called Denmoza erythrocephala. And the red thorns grow north and come up to Salta.

    Does it well CABAC

  • Many thanks to you two for the detailed explanation! Now I just hope that I can remember this valuable input until I have the pleasure of having to read South American maps ... The classic Castellano has already become independent in Spain and in South America even Spaniards sometimes come across theirs Limits.

    @ nobby: Thank you very much for the purchase recommendation! Selection that can flower early sounds good, but I'm not someone who orders unseen plants online. Either there is a trip to the wild southwest (which is by no means absurd) or I keep my eyes open when visiting the stock exchange. If it takes longer to bloom, then that's the way it is. We cactus lovers have learned to be patient.

    "If you want to deal with cacti, avoid any kind of humor and tolerance." - Author of glosses aculeatus in Stachelpost 1969

  • We cactus lovers have learned to be patient.


    Are you crazy? Give it to me right away!

    Succulent fever is a serious disease! Anyone who is infected cannot be saved!
    The main thing is that the early bird doesn't drink my coffee !!
    Tom

  • Hello everybody,

    I found these pictures yesterday when cleaning up the PC:

    The pictures show an approx. 10 year old plant whose origin lies in the Cuesta Miranda. Is approx. 15 cm high and has a diameter of 12 cm ...

    ... does it well

    Your CABAC

  • These "double stamens" have something ... As far as I am concerned, you can clean up your PC more often if there are such nice things to discover!

    "If you want to deal with cacti, avoid any kind of humor and tolerance." - Author of glosses aculeatus in Stachelpost 1969

  • Wow, that's really something!


  • .... then I have to be patient ................

    Succulent fever is a serious disease! Anyone who is infected cannot be saved!
    The main thing is that the early bird doesn't drink my coffee !!
    Tom

  • Beautiful flowers, thank you!

  • ... hmmmm, this year only one:

  • After all! How big is your Denmoza roughly?

    "If you want to deal with cacti, avoid any kind of humor and tolerance." - Author of glosses aculeatus in Stachelpost 1969

  • You show them to us but bloomed !!

    Succulent fever is a serious disease! Anyone who is infected cannot be saved!
    The main thing is that the early bird doesn't drink my coffee !!
    Tom

  • After all! How big is your Denmoza roughly?


    Hm, I guess, about 10 cm without thorns.
    But it has been blooming since it was much smaller, colleague D. erythrocephalathat is right next to it, but not ...


    You show them to us but bloomed !!

    Before I forget, here's an older picture:

  • Stately Denmoza !!
    Unfortunately mine didn't make it back then!

    Succulent fever is a serious disease! Anyone who is infected cannot be saved!
    The main thing is that the early bird doesn't drink my coffee !!
    Tom

  • Thank you very nice! I would like something like that (but after today's clearing out, I should discard any thoughts about possible newcomers as soon as possible). One of the very few monotypical genera from South America.

    "If you want to deal with cacti, avoid any kind of humor and tolerance." - Author of glosses aculeatus in Stachelpost 1969

  • Actually a very easy to care for plant (mine at least):
    gets off frost and in summer it is literally grilled just under the roof,
    it tolerates heat much better than the horse mutilators ...

  • One of the very few monotypical genera from South America.


    A genus with two species is certainly not monotypical.

    Succulent fever is a serious disease! Anyone who is infected cannot be saved!
    The main thing is that the early bird doesn't drink my coffee !!
    Tom

  • A genus with two species is certainly not monotypical.

    I don't think Denmoza has any reason to question the monotypical status of this genre.

    "If you want to deal with cacti, avoid any kind of humor and tolerance." - Author of glosses aculeatus in Stachelpost 1969

  • Erythrocephala is often used as a synonym for rhodacantha, but such errors also happen to other real species and even genera. But mostly from the same gentlemen, who cannot even explain it plausibly. In this case, however, if you look closely at D. erythrocephala and rhodacantha, the difference in the thorns alone is obvious.

    Succulent fever is a serious disease! Anyone who is infected cannot be saved!
    The main thing is that the early bird doesn't drink my coffee !!
    Tom