Why did Shakuni want to retaliate?

Why was Shakuni cursed by the gods to be evil?

iammilind

I am not sure that the concept of "embodiment" of the entire yuga in a single person is real. Most of the time it's symbolic. The Wikipedia article on Shakuni discusses the most acceptable theory about him, albeit with no fixed reference.

I'm not going to copy and paste all the relevant parts as this is mostly known to people, but the following sentence is important:

Hastinapur conquered Gandhar, killed the king Achala Suvala and imprisoned all male members of his line. He said this line was full of adharma .

Something full of evil would be cursed by the devatas (gods); The same could have been true for Gandharas and thus for Shakuni.

Besides, I don't see him as a pure evil. Rather, he was probably filled with some of the natural human vices, like revenge and immoral partisanship .

It's not that he always drove Duryodhana in the wrong direction. Check out this passage where he gives good advice to Duryodhana:

Sakuni said, “O Duryodhana, you shouldn't be jealous of Yudhishthira . Pandu's sons enjoy what they deserve due to their own happiness. ... having inherited the fatherly portion of the kingdom without being deprived of it, they have grown as a result of their own energies. What is there to apologize for? '

Keshav Srinivasan ♦

This doesn't answer my question at all. My question is why he was cursed by the gods for being evil, and not just why he happened to do bad things. In any case, the whole story of Shakuni trying to take revenge has no basis in Hindu scripture; See my answer here: hinduism.stackexchange.com/a/3082/36

Keshav Srinivasan ♦

Dwapara, too, is certainly a real individual; The Mahabharata chapter cited in my answer here lists the various gods and asuras who were incarnated as Mahabharata characters, and it says that Dwapara was incarnated as Shakuni. (And Duryodhana was an incarnation of Kali.)

iammilind

@ KeshavSrinivasan, my answer is more of an explanation that "Shakuni was just a person with vice". Of course, if his family line was full of anti-Dharma then he was forced to do bad things along with everyone. I am aware of the assignment of Yuga to Individual, but that should be taken with grain of salt or just treated as a symbol. e.g. Hitler / Stalin / Mao was a monster . I also agree that the wiki article does not provide solid evidence for the theory of "Shakuni's revenge on Bharatas", but is still the most widely accepted theory because of its relevant logical explanations. Shakuni had two reasons to take revenge.

Keshav Srinivasan ♦

No, I don't think it's just symbolic because there is a specific reason all of these people were born on earth at this time. see this chapter and the surrounding chapters. In any case, these are not logical explanations at all because they are refuted by the Mahabharata. There is no evidence that the Kuru Dynasty ever invaded Gandhara, and Shakuni could not avenge the deaths of his brothers in Kurus Prison because his brothers are actually fighting in the Mahabharata War. And the Mahabharata describes Shakuni as positive towards his sister's marriage, not negative.

Keshav Srinivasan ♦

As I discuss in my answer here, these couldn't possibly be Shakuni's motives: hinduism.stackexchange.com/a/3082/36 A much more plausible explanation would be that he was just as deceived as Duryodhana and just wanted to help Duryodhana defeat the Pandavas. But here, too, my question is not about Shakuni's motivation or what vices he had as a person, but specifically about the curse of the gods. So that doesn't answer my question.