Has someone reborn a dog or a cat?

Is there such a thing as rebirth or transmigration of souls in animals?

Is there such a thing as rebirth or transmigration of souls in animals?

08/25/2017 at 12:37 AM
Just in advance: I am a staunch atheist. I believe in one as little as in the other. Now the day before yesterday I have a dog (I already have four, two of them are herd guard dogs, all four are very territorial, dolls outside the property, as long as nobody wants anything, inside very difficult for "unknown" visitors, even if I'm right there) picked up the street.
I couldn't help it. I had to take it with me. To explain: I do not live in D. I saw him, braked, and even after a few minutes of "getting to know each other" he is naturally in the car. The cattle weighs a measly 50-55kg, even though they are pretty battered and skinny.

I don't usually do that. There are too many of them here. And four are enough too. And mine is actually not very happy about newcomers (I tried to pick up "cute" ones that were easy to convey to D, to vaccinate, to chip and to convey to D, they found it pretty stupid.

He slipped in here as if he had always been with us. You accepted him immediately. He's not submissive at all, but neither is he dominant. There are no arguments (which my other four have with each other from time to time). He is just there and belongs to it. And for whatever reason, it went through my head: "This is a very old soul". That sounds totally stupid now. But is there such a thing? That a living being "belongs" to others for whatever reason and then just appears and stays there?


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Is there such a thing as rebirth or transmigration of souls in animals?

08/25/2017 at 11:46 am
Just as there are families among us humans, there are also families among members of an animal species. Be it in this or the next level, which we call reality.


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08/25/2017 at 10:12 pm
@ indianer1
So you think he could somehow belong to my dogs and that's why he fits in so smoothly, even though he is anything but submissive?
Shouldn't sound negative. It is only relatively atypical for me that I invite and take a large "rotten oil" and for my sniffer completely atypical that they then warmly embrace this animal (from a human point of view) as a greeting. He also walks along the aisles as if he had never done anything else. He's certainly never learned German, but he just comes when I call on the others. If you sit down, he'll do it too. And so on. For me that's weird. I had it de-felted and dewormed today. He didn't care. As if I've had it forever.


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August 26, 2017 at 2:38 am
@Karakachan
Karakachan wrote: It is only relatively untypical for me that I invite and take large "rotten oils" with me ...
I am wondering:
How did the dog actually made you think you took him with you?

And how do you come up with "rebirth or transmigration of souls" in this context?
If there were some kind of death-lasting connection between your soul and the souls of these dogs, shouldn't that have made itself felt earlier?


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08/26/2017 at 9:02 am
@Karakachan
There is also discussion that humans can be reborn as animals. That is another facet. Has someone died that the dogs already knew and accepted as a family member, regardless of whether they were humans or animals?


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08/26/2017 at 10:41 am
@Karakachan

Sounds to me as if the animal were such a "home", the processes etc are used to from before. I don't know for sure, but I can't imagine that a feral animal is so "neutral" that it can be seamlessly integrated into a process of living with "domestic dogs" and people without any prior knowledge.

To the topic:
I like rebirth ... somehow.
And why, if that really exists, shouldn't an animal also be reborn ... Or just "something" reborn as an animal?
When I think about it - all the molecules have to go somewhere when a body dissolves.


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08/26/2017 at 12:45 PM
Dawnclaude wrote:There is also discussion that humans can be reborn as animals. That’s another facet.
@Dawnclaude
Do you also know discussions where it was about the animals were reborn as humans? Or does the development of rebirths tend to go down?


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08/26/2017 at 12:49 PM
5X5 wrote:@Dawnclaude
Do you also know discussions where it was about the animals were reborn as humans? Or does the development of rebirths tend to go down?
I don't know any discussions about it now. I only suspect that you can go from being an animal to being a human being. Because in my opinion all souls are equal, only restricted as incarnation ...


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August 26, 2017 at 3:25 pm
slobber wrote:Sounds to me as if the animal were such a "home", the processes etc. are used to from before.
That could also be the reason, he already "knew" the process and wanted to please, so as not to be sent away again. As a street dog, he is used to other dogs and handling them and has thus managed to wrap mine around his finger or paw.
Dawnclaude wrote:There is also discussion that humans can be reborn as animals. That’s another facet. Has someone died that the dogs already knew and accepted as a family member, regardless of whether they were humans or animals?
I like the thought, but nobody who was close to them and me died since I dogs.
Tajna wrote:How did the dog actually get you to take him with you?
Actually he just stood there and looked at me. For reasons inexplicable to me, I quickly felt the need to take him with me. Without worrying about whether this is a good idea. Which was actually downright stupid. Could have really pissed off.
Tajna wrote:And how do you come up with "rebirth or transmigration of souls" in this context? If there were some kind of connection between your soul and the souls of these dogs that would survive death, shouldn't that have made itself felt earlier?
I thought maybe there is some connection between us or between him and the dogs. But I don't know anything about the subject itself. That's why I asked here. Maybe someone has already experienced something similar.


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08/26/2017 at 11:06 PM
@Karakachan
Karakachan wrote:Actually he just stood there and looked at me. For reasons inexplicable to me, I quickly felt the need to take him with me. Without worrying about whether this is a good idea.
There is something unusual and mysterious about this situation.
All you really wanted to do was drive past the dog in the car.

I wonder, does this dog have special (social) skills?
You should watch him in this regard, maybe it will become clearer then.

Like @slobber, I would also suspect that the dog was used to living with people from the past.


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08/27/2017 at 12:33 PM
Tajna wrote:There is something unusual and mysterious about this situation: all you really wanted to do was drive past the dog in the car.
Yes, and what I found strangest in retrospect was that during the situation I found the process to be completely normal and self-evident.
Tajna wrote:I wonder, does this dog have special (social) skills? You should watch him in this regard, maybe this will become clearer.
I think he is extremely adaptable and quite intelligent. He observes a lot how the other dogs behave here and does it like them. Example: when they get their food in the evening, I put their bowl in front of everyone, you have to sit in front of it until everyone has something, then you can swallow. He looked (although he was definitely very hungry) to see what was going on and when he saw that they were now sitting by their bowls, he sat down by the bowl that I gave him and waited until there also what was inside.
There are also people who get along with everyone, probably that's what they are, just as a dog. In my opinion, he has definitely lived with people. I just don't see how the guy could be exposed, he's great. Presumably he radiates that somehow noticeably. And ended up in my car. As with people "love at first sight" or "being able to smell each other" (although he smelled bestially).


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08/27/2017 at 12:50 PM
I don't really contribute to the contribution, but just want to say "thank you" that you have a heart for animals and that you saved the Schnuff. :)


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08/29/2017 at 7:31 PM
@ cassiopeia1977
I actually don't have any, except for my two "dumpster karakachans". They were three to four weeks old when they were found in a dumpster by animal lovers in Silistra. I took them (not entirely unselfishly) because my big boys are 9 and 13 years old. And slowly reduce a bit. I took the fat one with me because I had to do it. For whatever reason. There are a lot of street dogs here that I don't do anything for, except to support the animal shelter in Silistra.


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08/29/2017 at 9:20 pm
@Karakachan

Regardless of whether there is rebirth or not, in this case that would at most explain to me why the dog was somehow "attracted" to you or you were "attracted" to it, but not why it was with the other dogs gets along so well.

I think that one could rather speculate about telepathy, that the dog maybe knew that he would be fine with you and that he could convey to you that he needs you.


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08/29/2017 at 9:49 PM
Tajna wrote:I think that one could rather speculate about telepathy, that the dog maybe knew that he would be fine with you and that he could convey to you that he needs you.
Now I think so too. I am probably in the wrong category. Apart from that, it is clear that it fits in perfectly (for whatever reason). I am definitely easier to "overcome" than my other dogs (they are very territorial, were all street or dumpster weffies and therefore not very "receptive"), that's why I stopped the topic here.)

For the four of them I am "Alpha" through and through. I can reach into the food at any time and such. My former dog trainer from Germany said to me: "If you walk into the property with a dog in the deep and unshakable opinion" He belongs to us now. And who immediately adapts to the other dogs, then they will very likely immediately too accept".
So again nothing mystical. I had hoped that something mystical would have happened to me in my life.

Thank you for your answers!


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08/29/2017 at 10:30 p.m.
@Karakachan

It was a mystical moment when you decided in a "moment" to take the new dog with you!

I think mystical things happen often, they just go unnoticed most of the time.

On this rebirth issue (I don't have a final opinion yet, I don't believe in it yet, but I'm also not convinced of the opposite) I even had some experiences:

On a path that I walked several times in the years that followed, I repeatedly met the exact copy of my deceased cat: the same spotted fur, the same spots, the same build and the same nature.
Whenever she saw me, she usually came running, let herself be petted and taken, or accompanied me for a while.

For me it was something that came pretty close to a "rebirth", in any case it was like a gift that made a past that had long been believed lost relive in the present.


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08/29/2017 at 11:41 PM
You are probably absolutely right. Under a mystical moment I expect a guy or a chick who, wrapped in a scruffy corpse case or in gleaming white duvet covers, says something about my future (preferably around midnight) or changes my life forever. There are magical / mystical moments, we just no longer perceive them as such. For me, the fur cuddle that has just completely settled here (which now seems completely normal to me again, it is there, it goes with it, and where four are full, five will be full) and with you this cat. After a few days it is "normal" for us, they meet us, they are part of everyday life. Whereby I'm closer to a rebirth or whatever it may be with the cat than with my fat man. He already fits fully into my "one-of-a-kind". I've already thought about whether it could (at least somehow be part of) a St. Bernard that I once took from a German animal shelter. Anton was 8.5 years old and had behavioral problems (he was confiscated). I had permission to keep "dangerous animals" in Germany and took him with me. I only saw him as an old, very unhappy dog. And in the 2.5 years that he was still alive, he never had any significant trouble with him. He didn't want to die, but had heart problems from the start and needed medical drugs. In terms of behavior, they are very similar. Visually not at all. Maybe he'll be back again? Where he wanted to be and finally felt comfortable (although different country now) I don't know. Actually, I don't believe in that. But really rule out the possibility that something like that might exist after all? I dont know.
About this cat with you, you can simply explain it with "a stray who is looking for someone to talk to and who happens to look very similar" but also with: "maybe there is more than we can scientifically and logically explain".


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08/30/2017 at 12:02 am
@Karakachan

The cat was not a stray, but lived with a family in a house with a garden on this path.

I never fed her, she was well fed.

She probably had similar genes to my late cat, at least as far as the genes responsible for appearance are concerned, she even had the same slightly longer hair.

As for her behavior at our chance meetings, I think if I had met my late cat again it would have been the same or very similar.


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09/03/2017 at 8:01 pm
She just wanted (for whatever reason) contact with you. You can make a lot of it or take it to be a coincidence. I have come to believe that there is something beyond our imagination. Sometimes something comes together that belongs to each other. Or so. When I think about it, it probably has little to do with "mystery". You just find yourself spontaneously good. Why shouldn't this also exist between animals and humans? You just fit together and you can feel it


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09/04/2017 at 8:54 pm
@Karakachan
To simply reply to the thread title. According to Vedic and Buddhist teachings, every living being is part of the cycle of life, death and rebirth. There is no difference and only the enlightened one (a Buddha) can evade it. Sometimes a born again does not remember his or her previous life. However, instinct reveals a lot in both humans and animals.


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