Which athletes are overpaid

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  • What I don't understand is why you think you need an investor. In general, there should be a "workers" revolution in sport. It can't be that an athlete earns several 100,000e a week just because he can play football. One should set a salary limit and suppress the salaries of athletes not through tax breaks, but through more tax burdens! What does the garbage man get out of the fact that player A or B plays well? What do we have from the garbage collector? He dumps something, does work in the interests of the community.
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  • Football players don't even have to play, only when they're watching they get paid
    We have to pay to watch!

    Almost everyone who appears on TV any number of times is overpaid!
    Many also get money from companies because they also do advertising!
  • Envy?

    I also think the salaries are too high, but why should you interfere?
    It's not like that who pull the money out of our pockets and give it to the athlete.
    If the clubs have enough money, through membership fees and advertising, it is their problem.
    They don't earn anything from me, except through the GEZ, except for European and World Cups I don't watch football. It's enough for me to read the results.
  • If it were easy, everyone would try it as a soccer player ... but who is still watching?

    That is of course a matter of defining what is and what is not overpaid. A bank player who makes money but hardly contributes to the team's success on the field can of course be considered overpaid faster. But even a Messi who performs anew every week can be seen as overpaid. On the other hand, it must also be taken into account that an athlete can hold himself at the very highest level for about 10 years. And then?

    Football players certainly don't earn that badly, but if you take a closer look at the salary structure, then there are actually only a few players who are actually overpaid, and how. And these are of course the top players who appear on the international stage and have become a kind of "advertising brand".

    I would say that at most the players in the first leagues are overpaid. But not in every team either. Can't tell me that the players from SSV Ulm were overpaid in 2000 ... Or Cottbus, Rostock, Freiburg, Mainz, etc.
    I assume that is very little of the total proportion of all footballers who receive a salary. I would of course also be interested in the exact statistics if someone would like to deal with it and post it here.

    One should set a salary limit and suppress the salaries of athletes not through tax breaks, but through more tax burdens!

    In addition, such discussions have been going on for some time. Please refer Financial fair play or. Salary cap.
    The tax burden is one of those things. The players only care about the net salary. If you have a job, at the end of the month you also look at the net salary that is being transferred to you. So higher taxes would result in higher player salaries than you as a stadium visitor / fan article buyer / etc. finance. The taxes withheld would therefore be paid out of your pocket again. Incidentally, a nice method for the federal government to "indirectly" collect taxes from you
  • keeper wrote:
    Envy?

    I also think the salaries are too high, but why should one interfere?
    It's not like that who pull the money out of our pockets and give it to the athlete.
    If the clubs have enough money, through membership fees and advertising, it is their problem.
    They don't earn anything from me, except through the GEZ, except for European and World Cups I don't watch football. It's enough for me to read the results.


    Envy? Only hatred of a system!
    How can it be that clubs like Athletico Madrid owe the state 500 million and the state votes on whether to cancel the debt? In Spain and Italy as well as in England they get tax breaks. How can it be that a worker with 7000 € has to give half of it, but a football between 20-30%?
  • Envy? Only hatred of a system!
    How can it be that clubs like Athletico Madrid owe the state 500 million and the state votes on whether to cancel the debt? In Spain and Italy as well as in England they get tax breaks. How can it be that a worker with 7000 € has to give half, but a football between 20-30%?

    Popular amusement. Very important to please the people and to distract them from the problems of a state. See gladiators in ancient Rome, etc.
  • According to the motto "bread and games".
  • manfred8 wrote:
    According to the motto "bread and games".
    Exactly.

    But it's not that easy as a footballer. First, you need a lot of luck to be discovered at all, then to be promoted and promoted by the right people. Bad luck with injuries can end your career. Media pressure even leads to mental disorders in some players (see the case of Simak, Deisler, Enke, and many more?). Then the role model function that they have to fulfill, otherwise they will get fines from their club again if they misbehave. Then all the autograph hunters and crazy fans who don't give you a private minute ...

    Oh, as normal citizens we have it nice and easy ...
  • It may be true that you have to adhere to certain rules, but if a worker is twice late, he gets rid of his job pretty quickly. And what kind of problems do ordinary people face? For example, the salary of electrical engineers has not changed in the last 10 years, although there is quite a demand for them. What followed from that? Now 500 students are no longer sitting at a lecture, today you are already satisfied with 50.

    In general, I am of the opinion that athletes should only live on the success bonuses and sponsorship money. There are sports, like chess, where that happens and the result is, either you make an effort and practice 8 hours a day or you look for a job and play a few tournaments on the side. That is the case with grandmasters.
  • Well, as a chess player there is no end of career due to injury, so I have a problem with the word "chess."Sports"

    But if a club goes bankrupt, it shouldn't be supported by the state, I agree.
  • Form crises! If you ever have the flu or an illness, you have to come to terms with everything. In addition, chess meets 31 out of 32 requirements that make up a sport.
  • manfred8 wrote:
    It may be true that you have to adhere to certain rules, but if a worker is twice late, he gets rid of his job pretty quickly. And what kind of problems do ordinary people face? For example, the salary of electrical engineers has not changed in the last 10 years, although there is quite a demand for them. What followed from that? Now 500 students are no longer sitting at a lecture, today you are already satisfied with 50.

    In general, I am of the opinion that athletes should only live on the success bonuses and sponsorship money. There are sports, like chess, where that happens and the result is, either you make an effort and practice 8 hours a day or you look for a job and play a few tournaments on the side. That is the case with grandmasters.
    Yes, that's the way it is. But I'm afraid it won't get any better in the next few years. If Europe wants to remain competitive, then maybe not with generous salaries ... It might sound a bit presumptuous and scary, but if you look at the Asians: what they can and do, and that for a fraction of the money ... And in In the big cities of Asia it is no longer the case that the cost of living is much lower than here in Europe. Rather the opposite. I am curious to see how this will develop over the next few years.
  • manfred8 wrote:
    It may be true that you have to adhere to certain rules, but if a worker is twice late, he gets rid of his job pretty quickly. And what kind of problems do ordinary people face? For example, the salary of electrical engineers has not changed in the last 10 years, although there is quite a demand for them. What followed from that? Now 500 students are no longer sitting at a lecture, today you are already satisfied with 50.

    In general, I am of the opinion that athletes should only live on the success bonuses and sponsorship money. There are sports, like chess, where that happens and the result is, either you make an effort and practice 8 hours a day or you look for a job and play a few tournaments on the side. That is the case with grandmasters.


    Why did I think to myself that this topic would not get past chess? ;)

    I don't understand why one should intervene at all. Do we intervene in the salary of the waste disposal technician?
    It's all a question of the money available and what the market is giving away. If millions of people, even billions (SuperBowl) would watch a bowling tournament and sponsor money etc. would flow accordingly, the salary structure would also be higher there. Likewise with chess .... No one is interested in chess, so nobody invests money in the sport, which in the end stays with the chess player (I don't want to use the word athlete here).


    Last modified post: 2/16/2013 14:42:59 by kigollogik
  • Something on the topic and to relax from 1974.
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  • manfred8 wrote: It can't be that an athlete earns several 100,000e a week just because he can play football.

    Why not. Those who pay him earn so much from football that they are willing to shovel a lot of money into the bones of a good player so that he can play for them and not for others.

    You don't have to regulate that by law. It's all a question of supply and demand. It's in the hands of the fans. If they refuse to consume their preferred sport, the market value of the athletes will fall very quickly.
    In sports that are less, uh, profitable, little is earned, because the money has to come from somewhere.



  • manfred8 wrote:
    Form crises! If you have the flu or an illness, you have to come to terms with everything. In addition, chess meets 31 out of 32 requirements that make up a sport.


    1. Why does the flu destroy my chess skills?
    2. What are these requirements? I'm honestly too lazy to google it now, because I know that you probably know a page about it. ?
  • It's all relative. Certainly your colleagues in football do not earn badly, but it also takes a lot to get that far. In principle, people only talk about the top salaries of Messi, Ronaldo & Co. Have a look at the lower leagues, there the situation looks completely different, although they practice sport as their main activity and sacrifice just as much time and ambition.
  • If someone already earns € 100,000 a week, then that should be taxed accordingly.
    According to the definition, sailing is not a sport, which of you would have known that?
  • manfred8 wrote:
    If someone already earns € 100,000 a week, then that should be taxed accordingly.


    What do you even want. In Germany, footballers are faced with a top tax rate of 45%. Where do yours come from Insane-moronic poststhat a footballer in Germany would allegedly only pay 20% tax.
    How should one discuss with you in-depth, if you false facts bring into the discussion, which are also easy to refute.
    What are you hoping for from this?

    http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article11270746/Warum-die-Fussball-Stars-aus-Deutschland-fluechten.html

    Before you next time nonsensically wrong stuff write, read the article. I chose the short one especially for you, you're not a man of big words.
  • Unfortunately, it is the case that, for example, footballers who have only played 5 minutes (or less) in major tournaments (EM / World Cup), their value increases because they have played in major international tournaments even if there were only a few minutes without goals or other successes were.

    Sure footballers, but also people in winter sports or other sports have to perform well and in order to achieve this they train more or less every day for 8 hours, as the said garbage man empties garbage cans every day. Top athletes are also certain advertising media for various companies, such as the soccer star from Bayern Munich, for example from Opel. If he scores a goal or if he performs well, then he is paid in part by the income from weaving, if he does not score, the coach is left first and then the player whose contract is terminated follows.

    But I do not find the extreme sums that a Michael Schumacher earned at Ferrari or a footballer at a large club really justified. They get huge sums in a month and earn more in that time than a garbage man would earn with hard work in his entire life.

    My place has a team in the wrestling, they are currently in the second Bundesliga and are therefore in 3rd to 4th place out of 10 teams every year, i.e. in the upper midfield. Most of those who fight there every weekend in the season are all hobby athletes who, in addition to their training activities, which mainly take place two to three times a week in the evenings for 2 or 3 hours, are involved in normal professions (craftsmen, police, professional fire brigade) and the trainers also in the association mainly voluntary. For every fight won, the team members only receive an average of 300 to 400 euros from the club, if it is that much at all.

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