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Staff shortage -> totally frustrating

of babett »Sa 26 May 2012, 11:18 am

Hello everybody,

I have been the owner of a nursing service for almost 30 years. When I started my nursing service was the only one on duty. I couldn't save myself from referrals from patients, nor from motivated colleagues who wanted to work in home care.

Today hardly any employees come into home care. I place ads like a world champion, when I finally have an application, the applicant cancels shortly before the appointment or doesn't even get in touch. I haven't been able to take in patients for a long time, on the contrary. With every termination for which I do not have a replacement employee, I also have to terminate patients.

I haven't understood that for a long time, because actually the work as such is a very nice job. You care for the patient in your own environment, the work is varied and varied. You work independently and have contacts everywhere. In my nursing service, I offer every employee after a certain period of time to finance part-time training, but this offer is usually turned down. I always ask why. If the employee doesn't feel trodden on, I get answers like "don't feel like doing it", "why the whole thing", "I want to get out at some point anyway", or "oh no, that doesn't appeal to me at all" .

What's going on and, above all, where are the motivated colleagues who enjoy home care? I don't know, maybe one of you has an answer ...

Kind regards

babett
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of Nadine »Sat 2nd Jun 2012, 5:45 pm

Unfortunately, I cannot answer why some people do not feel like home care. The fact that I cannot work in home care is simply due to the fact that I don't have a driver's license. And there are hardly any employers who would be willing to finance me and the job center only pays if I can show an employer who will also take me when I have my driver's license. But unfortunately I haven't had any luck so far. And I have a 1-year training as a nursing assistant and am still looking for a job.

Lg Nadine
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Re: shortage of personnel -> totally frustrating

of babett »Mon Jun 11, 2012, 3:32 am

Hello Nadine,

where are you at home? We are in Düsseldorf and would like to give you the guarantee for the employment office, because we are still desperately looking.

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babett
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of Nadine »Mon 11 Jun 2012, 5:55 pm

Hello Babett,

that would be really great. I live in Markranstädt, which is near Leipzig. I wouldn't have a problem moving with that either.

Kind regards Nadine
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Re: shortage of personnel -> totally frustrating

of babett »Mon 11 Jun 2012, 7:55 pm

Dear Nadine,

then please contact us and see that you get your driver's license quickly. You will immediately receive a confirmation of the job with us for the employment office! We can also offer you a temporarily locked, furnished room with your own bathroom and will be happy to help you find an apartment! Just call us as soon as possible, from 9:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. Telephone 0211-292222, our boss is called Thomas Jastram. You can also find us on facebook, look under Schlomann-Schmitter care service. I look forward to hearing from you!

Kind regards

babett
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Re: shortage of personnel -> totally frustrating

of Andrea »Fri 26 Oct 2012, 5:30 am

A nice hello,
I found working in home care very exhausting. I am 42 years old and completed the 3-year training 2 years ago. As part of my training, I did a six-week internship in home care. The shared service was the horror for me ... in the evening at 9.45pm at home ... in the morning after 5am the first patient (dialysis patient). When there were bottlenecks, it happened a few times to also take over the lunch service. I don't really let myself get down that fast, but that was at my limits. Bad nutrition, little free time, hardly any social contact with my friends or family due to working hours. I was exhausted.
Of course, the care at home with the patients was also nice. I just had to concentrate on this one patient ... no peeps ... like in the home, where 5 other BW need help at the same time ... no rounds quickly on the side, etc.
What I also found positive were the paths between the patients. I was able to switch off while driving and prepare for the next patient. And there we are with the next problem ... male ... 140kg ... no care bed I had to cross two doorsteps with the lifter and patient to get into the bathroom ... the corners ... to get around all corners I either had to overcome precise calculations or with several "attempts". I just had no more strength ... was just finished.
I praise my work in the home. It is handicapped accessible .... I have colleagues ... whom I can call for help at any time ... we can support each other.
Maybe I was with the wrong home care provider.
How are the working conditions + organization at your place? Certainly better? I would be very interested.
Best regards
Caregiver Andrea
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Re: shortage of personnel -> totally frustrating

of shake »Sat Jan 26, 2013, 9:36 am

hello it is an older post but a current topic, I am finishing my training now and as the best of my year, have great references and already completed a medical training beforehand, a treat for every employer. I hope I have an application after the wrote to others, had just as many job interviews, but since I am not available around the clock alone with a 5 year old child no grandmas), and no employer was willing to compromise, I am unemployed despite a lack of skilled workers in the care sector. It seems that it is to the employers It is more about having staff that is available around the clock than delivering good quality of care
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Re: shortage of personnel -> totally frustrating

of Mediator »Mon 8 Jul 2013, 9:57 am

When it comes to home care, the question arises whether outpatient service is really attractive. Reason: In addition to the timing, i.e. the specification of how long I can stay with the person being cared for, and thus how the service provider can bill, the local conditions and the technical equipment such as the care bed etc. are also decisive.

We do not consider home care to be attractive because of the conditions, since everyone around the people to be cared for is often driven by profit maximization. The well-intentioned and often self-sacrificing nurses are timely, because they cannot document everything, not only used in their pay but also in their willingness to help.

As a personnel consultancy with a holistic approach and responsibility, we rely very heavily on a work environment that also gives high priority to the appreciation of the caregiver.

This means that we create such framework conditions that the person to be cared for has optimal care and that the professional and human requirements of the caregivers are consistent.

In this role, we advise a large number of institutions. We coordinate the professional quality and the personal environmental conditions of the nursing staff so that they always have a contact person in us for questions.

If you have any questions, please [email protected]
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Re: shortage of personnel -> totally frustrating

of sodium »Tue 9 Jul 2013, 5:23 am

Home care is completely underpaid. Money is not everything, but it is still very important.
Years ago I worked in the home for three quarters of a year because I was still lacking in my wealth of experience.
I also had a lot of fun, but I couldn't make big leaps with the income.
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Re: shortage of personnel -> totally frustrating

of Hansfranz »Sun 11 Aug 2013, 2:14 pm

It's your own fault ..... You don't think anyone else will do that to themselves.
I'm a nurse, but I migrated to industry because I'm simply fed up with living on the subsistence level. Then there are still missing weekends and overtime all the time, which just end up on the slip of paper.
Now ask yourself why no one wants to go to inpatient or home care anymore.
You only ask, but what comes from you?
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Re: shortage of personnel -> totally frustrating

of Ette »Tue 13 Aug 2013, 12:33 pm

Hello Hansfranz,

May I ask which industry exactly did you migrate to?
For reasons similar to what bebe wrote above, I am currently looking for a new / different sphere of activity.
Despite top exams and experience in various specialist areas (and despite a shortage of skilled workers), it is almost impossible as a single mother to find a decent job. (Before pregnancy you were hired with a kiss and various bonuses ...)
I find it more than discriminatory to be asked in advance how one intends to solve the "problem" in the case of illness of the child?!?
I wonder if fathers are asked that too? Or whether "normal" people without children are asked whether they intend to be sick more often in the future - possibly on Monday after a long weekend of partying?!?

I'm curious whether the employers will continue to stick to their outdated shift work models in the future, when the majority of employees in care are women and, as you know, they can also become mothers at some point ... Add to that the increasing numbers of single-parent families ... we can look forward to it!
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of Steffi 2012 »Thu 22 Aug 2013, 12:27 pm

I can only talk about myself, I was in the outpatient department in Hanover for a long time and I loved it! The change for me came after my training, a lot more work and somehow no more life. Every day from 5:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. it was already the rule. Nevertheless, I persevered until I had a bang (Bourn-out) and was sick for 1.5 years. During that time I was just crying and honestly I didn't feel like living anymore. I found it sad where I was in my company for years, nobody even got in touch or asked if I was on the mend. NO ONE thought of me, why out of sight out of mind!
When I then thought I was going to quit my job because I couldn't make it into the job anyway. I just wanted to do something good for the company so that I don't have a job without them being able to hire someone else.
THANKS!!! Now the receipt I am allowed to pay 3,000 € from the training, had a contract that binds me to the company 3 years after the training. In my illness I didn't think about it and quit in the 2nd year.
I was there for 13 years and now that, additional payment and I have been FORGOTTEN!
I can't think of anything, I'm just sad , I've always been there for others and I've always jumped in
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Re: shortage of personnel -> totally frustrating

of Care Life2012 »Sa 24 Aug 2013, 7:20 am

hansfranz wrote:It's your own fault ..... You don't think anyone else will do that to themselves.
I'm a nurse, but I migrated to industry because I'm simply fed up with living on the subsistence level. Then there are still missing weekends and overtime all the time, which just end up on the slip of paper.
Now ask yourself why no one wants to go to inpatient or home care anymore.
You only ask, but what comes from you?

Well right again! A lot of motivation is required, stay on the line!
I am also sadly considering whether I will change to another job, so you lose your caregivers!

This is also the case with Steffi2012! In all honesty, there is something wrong with the care !?
Do employees no longer count as people?
Every nursing service is as good as its employees and as dissatisfied as some here write, I don't exactly have the motivation to get to know the company! Only then should something change and then you can make demands!
It is clear that more and more change jobs! Personnel shortage is preprogrammed
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Re: shortage of personnel -> totally frustrating

of Care Life2012 »Sa 24 Aug 2013, 7:29 am

Sodium wrote:Home care is completely underpaid. Money is not everything, but it is still very important.
Years ago I worked in the home for three quarters of a year because I was still lacking in my wealth of experience.
I also had a lot of fun, but I couldn't make big leaps with the income.


It's not only like this in the outpatient area, it is similar in the inpatient area!
Just don't consider the stress of driving time, 7 minutes by car to the next patient. And then no matter where you live, whether nearby or further away, the time still remains the same! ???
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Re: shortage of personnel -> totally frustrating

of troubled? »Sa 8 Mar 2014, 10:18 pm

I am now in the 3rd nursing service and will probably go here soon too. Either the bosses have no idea about the company, appropriate social behavior, labor law and corporate governance, or they exploit the staff financially, physically and psychologically. I'm a thorn in the side of my current boss because I won't put up with everything and went to court. Frustration is no longer an expression of what I feel when I have to work. I won't know until Friday whether and how I'll be working for the next week. And a newly mixed tour every day ... and that annoys the patients too.
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Re: shortage of personnel -> totally frustrating

of cindy2003 »Tue May 27, 2014, 1:56 pm

Hello everybody,
The personnel shortage is so great because no one is under constant pressure
of shared services, jumping in for sick colleagues, working several weekends in a row and keeping it up at a high performance level, the pay is not right in the care, we agree - an incredibly responsible and demanding job (we deal with human life) and everything is fine Commerce trimmed - I would not advocate profitable care facilities, a large corporation (for me in Saxony) is also on the stock exchange, which is a no-go for me.
Greetings from Cindy2003
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Personnel shortages have a system

of Andrea »Wed Apr 1, 2015, 8:51 am

Hello,

Personnel shortages have a system! The well-known maintenance keys are dubious, they come from the 80s and should prevent extreme understaffing. Neither in the course of the modernization of care, nor the introduction / change of the care levels have led to higher care codes. In Hamburg, an assessment from the industry was once used in geriatric care, with which personnel requirements can be determined. According to this, 33% of staff are lacking in inpatient care facilities. This attempt was immediately stopped by the geriatric care lobby.

If the time values ​​for determining the care levels (I, II, III) are converted into a care code, up to 50% of the staff are missing.

The reason is the elderly care lobby:
1. Operators want to minimize personnel costs
2. Kassen and MDK want everything to run smoothly with the current contribution rates, otherwise the contribution payer / voter must be expected to increase the contribution rate
3. Charities are operators themselves

Elderly care in Germany is organized by a mafia, money is earned, some of the employees are too stupid and too lethargic to change anything.

Is this contribution now also not allowed, dear administrator?

Greeting,
Andrea
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Re: shortage of personnel -> totally frustrating

of Mckale »Sat 19 Mar 2016, 3:40 pm

I can understand that well. I passed my state examination as a nurse in 1986 and later worked in home nursing for almost 15 years. Had various further education, qualification as a nursing manager etc. etc. A few years ago I was at the point where I could no longer see any patients. The roster was hell, the wages at subsistence level, not to mention the paperwork to be done on the side.I was hopelessly overworked, chronically broke, in short, the level of masochism that had been given to me had been used up. Never care again !!
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Re: shortage of personnel -> totally frustrating

of pinziberlin »Mon 21 Mar 2016, 11:41 am

WHY?!?
YOU SUCK US OUT !!!! to the last.
Nurse, was my dream job, loved it so much ... man.
Everything.- was made by amb. Nursing services, destroyed in me.
and that makes me very sad!
over 30 patients and that in Berlin ... and and and.
Such employers would have to be punished! I can no longer find words for such care services.
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Re: shortage of personnel -> totally frustrating

of Masuerich »Fri 29 Jul 2016, 8:13 am

Honestly,

this question is stupid and you could answer yourself.
But I'll be happy to help you, care for the elderly is a scalven job, exploitation and systematic destruction of employees. You sacks of the thick coal that we generate with blood and sweat. You ask why nobody wants to do this job?
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Re: shortage of personnel -> totally frustrating

of uinonah »Thu 8 Sep 2016, 4:19 pm

I have been working in nursing in the hospital for over 30 years. I frankly say that outpatient care is not my thing. Always the same patients, annoying relatives, stress about unpredictable aids. Other people don't like to work In the hospital, everyone is knitted differently. And that regardless of time pressure (we also have that), partial services and even more miserable payment than in the hospital. If the working conditions (and I think, the working hours and pay come first ) do not change, the personnel problem in outpatient care will be worse than in other areas.
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Re: shortage of personnel -> totally frustrating

of Rabanus »Wed Sep 14, 2016, 8:51 am

Hello,
The job offer in the large nursing homes is now so large that there is a lack of staff in the private care services.
As a result of this development, the private nursing services have built their reputation. Simply put: the work / salary ratio is no longer correct.

I would continue to rely on ads. Try to make the jobs attractive and advertise on the Internet. There are always local job boards where a company can present itself. For the most part, the "younger" society does not read the newspaper that much and is more likely to be reached via online job exchanges.

You can also reach a lot of people on Facebook via job groups or public posts.

I think there are a lot of people who don't think about working in hospitals. Potential employees are always there. The difficulty is to find this.

LG and good luck!
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Re: shortage of personnel -> totally frustrating

of pawian »Wed Sep 14, 2016, 12:10 pm

Hello

I'm going to speak out now as an employer for outpatient care.

Yes, there may be these black sheep as exploiters. But have you ever thought that a nursing service receives an average of € 8.02 per use for a medication, for example? This includes travel, medication, observation, advice, documentation, etc. The nursing service has not even paid for its fuel, let alone paid your hourly wages, wage tax, health insurance contributions, insurance, rent, etc.
Also bear in mind that the services are not documented, or if the nursing service has submitted the prescription too late, the nursing service does not receive any money !!! The costs keep running!

In our care service, we try very hard to plan few partial services, to give the care customers sufficient time and to knit the tours as generously as possible. But we are also in the country and can calculate less time for 10 minutes of travel than a nursing service in the big city with traffic lights, traffic jams, etc. Understandably, the time spent with the patient must be reduced here.

For reference care, yes you accompany the customer over a longer period of time and yes sometimes the relatives are sometimes "exhausting" but what you get in return is priceless. Especially over a longer period of time in which you can get to know each other better.

So colleagues resisted: Please take a look behind the scenes first, why something is the way it is. As the owner of a facility, however, it is not reprehensible to pay a little more salary, which is why you start a company. But MAN also has a huge responsibility and, especially in the first few years, no free time.

I could write my fingers sore, but should suffice as a food for thought.
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Re: shortage of personnel -> totally frustrating

of lalala »Wed Sep 14, 2016, 1:51 pm

This problem is not unique to home care. It looks the same with us in inpatient care. There are no more junior staff. All we get regularly are unmotivated 16 year old interns. I have no idea since when the profession of geriatric nurse became so unpopular. I see black for my own future. Society is getting older and nobody wants to care ...
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Re: shortage of personnel -> totally frustrating

of Marja »Sun 23 Oct 2016, 2:51 pm

If you search for "bottleneck analysis" on the websitearbeitsagentur.de and click through, you will find monthly lists of the bottleneck occupations. In geriatric care there are around 40 unemployed geriatric nurses for every 100 vacancies. Not all vacancies are reported, but all unemployed people who receive benefits.

It is a mystery to me why nurses accept these working conditions. After all, you can earn more in most professions with similar physical, intellectual and psychological demands.
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Re: shortage of personnel -> totally frustrating

of ABCD »Thu Oct 27, 2016, 7:18 am

Hello,

I'm a doctor's assistant in a wonderful practice, with nice colleagues, bosses and patients who i .d. Usually also knows over a long period of time, and thus can build a wonderful bond.
I have a pleasant working environment, my commute to work is 10 minutes on foot, and my bosses, colleagues and patients value my work, my working hours are clearly regulated, hardly any overtime is tolerated, the salary is low (10 € / hour) gross, but a 13th month's salary is paid as usual.
We plan our vacation in advance for the coming year, if somebody (or the child) is sick, the other colleagues can cushion it well, nobody needs to feel bad about it.
In regular everyday life there are always enough phases where fewer patients come, usually you can breathe deeply.
I know I am very lucky with my job and look more and more often with pity at the entire care industry, which as far as I have seen it so far, my sister was just starting her training as a health and nurse i.d. local university clinic, is terribly exploited and downright consumed. In all areas. And then spat out and left behind as a pile of misery. The physical exertion is hardly imaginable for me, I could, purely physically, although I go to the gym for 1 hour a day and do strength training, hardly ever move a 140 kg patient, let alone clean it properly or heave through the whole apartment.
And all of this with inhumane working hours, stress, equipment, cut off from one's own social environment, with the bad feeling of not being able to look after one's own children as one wishes, without temporal and physical / psychological capacities for one's own needs.

What I want to say is: It may be possible. also different, I would like to encourage everyone who suffers in any way from their working conditions to seek help, many doctors, especially psychotherapists, are willing to support their patients on this path, dare to claim sick pay , possibly a stat. To take a cure and to reorganize yourself, life is too short to be consumed.
It is your life and that is the most precious thing you have. If nothing works anymore, go to the doctor and get a sick note, and then see if there is still a perspective in the company, and otherwise let yourself be terminated (do not terminate yourself, that means a 3-month ban at the job center) and let us help you , and at some point stand up again very slowly. I went through it myself, had a nightmare job, and then I was depressed. Went cure, and was in stat for 1.5 years. Therapy. And lost everything at home. But I felt better than ever, I slowly built myself up again, the job center never bothered me or anything like that, then even got (unplanned) pregnant, looked after my child out of conviction, 3.5 years at home, and was like that 6 years out of the job.
And yet I am where I am today. Happy, healthy and satisfied. Just like my husband and daughter.
The return to work was, of course, no picnic, but with perseverance and without hardship, able to wait for the best offer for me, I succeeded. And now it means that I have good prospects of getting through my work life healthy and happy. There won't be a pension anyway, I'm realistic about that. I don't know what then. But the crisis has strengthened me and has led to the fact that I am no longer a burden to society now and in the future, but can actively work for it, and at least got one child on the way to do the same.

best regards

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